Is The Paleo Diet The Worst Popular Diet?

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What a flipping joke. US News ranked the Paleo Diet dead last in every category that included overall, weight loss, diabetes, heart healthy and commercial. Do they have any idea what the paleo diet is? Obviously not. They said the paleo diet was low carb. It’s NOT low carb! Not by a long shot! Are many people eating low carb who also eat a paleo diet? Yes. However, that means nothing. I eat a paleo diet but I don’t eat low carb. This is true with thousands of others. Was the panel made up of experts? It does not seem so. If they are then they deserve a toad slap.

Read the full article now if you have not already: US News Best Diets

On this page they have a series of 10 questions plus an overview. Sadly, most of the information on this page is flat out wrong. It is safe to say that I know a hell of a lot more about a paleo diet, or as I like to put it, a primal/paleo lifestyle, compared to everyone that ranked the diets. I’ll answer the questions truthfully. You will know the truth about this kick ass lifestyle. A lifestyle that is SAVING lives. A lifestyle that us human beings lived for 2.5 million years. A lifestyle that millions of people live in millions of different ways.

Let’s get to it shall we?

Overview

Type:

Low-carb.

Resembles these U.S. News-rated diets:

AtkinsEco-Atkins

The aim:

May include weight loss and maintenance, and prevention or control of many “diseases of civilization,” like type 2 diabetes and heart disease.

The claim:

You’ll lead a healthier, fitter, disease-free life.

The theory:

Our highly processed, carb-obsessed eating pattern is the culprit behind many of our biggest health ills, so why not go back—way back—to the Paleolithic period of more than 10,000 years ago, when our diet wasn’t full of junk food and pasta? Paleo advocates say we should eat the way we ate when we were hunting and gathering: animal protein and plants.

They got most of this right. Where they are wrong is saying it’s low carb. It’s not. You can eat 300 grams of carbohydrates a day and still be eating a paleo diet. I never would but you could. If I was eating 5,000 calories a day then I easily would. Also, it does NOT resemble the Atkins diet. Not by a long shot.

How does the Paleo Diet work? 

Paleo diets are based on a simple premise—if the cavemen didn’t eat it, you shouldn’t either. So long to refined sugar, dairy, legumes, and grains (this is pre-agricultural revolution); hello to meat, fish, poultry, fruits, and veggies. What you eat and how much depend on your goals or the specific program you’re on, if you choose to follow one.

You can find most of what you need to know online, but a book makes a handy reference. The Paleo Dietfor example, outlines basic Paleo principles and offers three “levels” that allow for different degrees of cheating—three “open meals” per week on the “entry level” plan, two on “maintenance,” and just one on “maximal.” Depending on the level, you might also get “transitional” condiments (low-fat dressing and salsa) and drinks (coffee, beer, or wine in moderation) to wash down the meat and plants. You can use the levels as you like. Start with the first and move gradually to the more restrictive—or just stay put. For more dramatic changes, head right to the third.

The general guideline that they stated in paragraph one is correct. If you want to make it simple then go by that rule. However, their is a lot more to it. It should not be that simple. One should experiment once they dive in and see what works for them. I eat green beans, sugar snap peas and peas. All are legumes and thus all are not technically paleo. Bananas are a new food but it’s a fruit. Many apples are new foods too. Some eat potatoes and some don’t. Some even include beans here and there. We like to use the 80/20 rule which allows anyone in the world to eat this way. Some even include white rice. It’s all a personal choice. I say dive in for 30-60 days and be strict. Then add back certain foods. If you eat a slice of whole wheat bread after that 30 days prepare to feel like shit.

As far as books go on the subject… well… there are hundreds. Literally. The best 2 are The Primal Blueprint and The Paleo Solution. Read one or read both. You then won’t want to stop educating yourself with this lifestyle! The newest bang that is going to be huge for this movement is Wheat Belly. I can not wait to get my hands on it!

Will you lose weight?

No way to tell. Paleo diets haven’t yet drawn the attention of many researchers. One tiny study that looked at weight loss found that 14 participants lost an average of about 5 pounds after three weeks on a Paleo regimen. (But even the researchers called their study “underpowered.”) Still, if you build a “calorie deficit” into your Paleo plan—eating fewer calories than your daily recommended max, or burning off extra by exercising—you should shed some pounds. How quickly and whether you keep them off is up to you.

Bull shit. You don’t need large studies to believe. Just take a look at all the real life transformations on MDA. Seriously. Do it. Now! It has 12 long ass pages so it might take you a while. My favorite success story is The Unconquerable Dave. There are thousands of other primal/paleo success stories all over the web. I even have some. Just click here.

You will lose weight if that is your goal. You will keep it off too. There is a massive support system within this lifestyle. If you stick with it, ask questions and never give up then you can’t fail. I hate that word but it works here!

Does it have cardiovascular benefits? 

Unknown. While some studies have linked Paleo diets with reducing blood pressure, bad “LDL” cholesterol, and triglycerides (a fatty substance that can raise heart disease risk), there have been few, small, and short. And all that fat would worry most experts.

More bull shit. It is known. Look at thousands of individuals who have tried this “diet” (I hate this word with a passion but it gets me traffic). If you want to find out if it has cardiovascular benefits then try it. Eat paleo for 30 days. Get your numbers checked before you start and then get them checked on day 31. When you do this come back to me. Oh, and I want to see the numbers for the different particle sizes for LDL. It’s not about the total number but rather how many of the large and small particles you have. You want the large size. You do not want the small ones.

I’ll bet anyone in the world a million dollars that, if someone with poor health lives the primal lifestyle how I want them to live it, then they will turn around their health. They will no longer be at risk for anything. The amount of time would vary. This lifestyle will fix anyone folks. I realize we are all different and I would thus have the individual experiment. Their is no one size fits all. But the general guidelines will fit all.

Can it control or prevent diabetes?

Unknown.

Prevention: Being overweight is one of the biggest risk factors for type 2 diabetes. If reverting back to the Paleo era helps you lose weight and keep it off, you’ll stand a better chance of staving off the disease.

Control: One small study comparing a Paleo and a traditional diabetes diet in 13 type 2 diabetics showed the Paleo diet resulted in lower levels of hemoglobin A1C, a measure of blood sugar over time. The approach needs to be studied more before strong conclusions can be drawn, but most diabetes experts recommend a diet that includes whole grains and dairy products.

More bull shit. It does reverse diabetes and most definitely prevents it. No question about it! That’s a given for this way of life! Carbohydrates are the main culprit. Unless you are very active then you should not eat a lot of carbs. I am not going to say that everyone should be eating less than 100 or even less than 150. Most should unless you are very active. But, again, we are all different. Experiment folks!

This is again claiming that just because their have not been large studies that it’s unknown. This is complete idiocy. Do the people who took part in this article want to save lives? Have they been involved with primal living? I want to save lives. Primal/paleo eating and living does this. This article may have gotten in my way but I sure hope this response changes some minds. I sure hope this gets one million likes on facebook and one million tweets. You can help me make it happen!

Are there health risks?

Possibly. By shunning dairy and grains, you’re at risk of missing out on a lot of nutrients. Also, if you’re not careful about making lean meat choices, you’ll quickly ratchet up your risk for heart problems.

While there are no specific dieter restrictions, you’ll want to consider talking with your doctor before making changes to your meal plans.

No health risks. No side effects exist. Some people get the “low carb flu.” Their is a way around this. Don’t go from eating 300+ carbs a day to less than 50 carbs a day. Take baby steps if you don’t want to feel sick right away. If you want a shot at having severe side effects then take drugs.

Sure, you are shunning dairy and grains. But what do you replace those food groups with? Meat, veggies, fruits. Eat organ meats too. You are not missing out on a single nutrient. Lean meats? Sorry but that is not part of the protocol. Eat lean meats. Eat fatty meats too. Bacon anyone? Or how about grass fed ground beef? Not all dairy is out. Many primal/paleo folks who handle dairy well eat full fat dairy from grass-fed, pasture raised cows. I eat butter and ghee. I don’t do any other dairy because I am lactose and casein intolerant as far as I know. Most are lactose intolerant which means not consuming dairy will do wonders for an individuals health.

Grains are crap. Complete crap. They are addicting. They cause dozens of problems. Do your research folks. Read Wheat Belly.

How well does it conform to accepted dietary guidelines?

Fat. At about 39 percent of daily calories from fat, a sample Paleo menu exceeds the government’s 35 percent cap by a bit.

Protein. The government recommends 10 to 35 percent of daily calories come from protein; the Paleo diet clocks in around 38 percent.

Carbohydrates. At 23 percent of daily calories from carbs, it’s far below the government’s 45 to 65 percent recommendation.

Salt. The majority of Americans eat too much salt. The recommended daily maximum is 2,300 milligrams, but if you’re 51 or older, African-American, or have hypertension, diabetes, or chronic kidney disease, that limit is 1,500 mg. You won’t have trouble staying under either goal; cavemen didn’t have table salt and high-sodium processed foods, and fresh produce is virtually sodium-free.

Other key nutrients. The 2010 Dietary Guidelines call these “nutrients of concern” because many Americans get too little of one or more of them:

  • Fiber. Getting the recommended daily amount of 22 to 34 grams for adults helps you feel full and promotes good digestion. With such a heavy emphasis on fruits and veggies, you’ll exceed your target.
  • Potassium. A sufficient amount of this important nutrient, according to the 2010 Dietary Guidelines, counters salt’s ability to raise blood pressure, decreases bone loss, and reduces the risk of developing kidney stones. It’s not that easy to get the recommended daily 4,700 mg. from food. (Bananas are high in potassium, yet you’d have to eat 11 a day.) The majority of Americans take in far too little. A sample Paleo diet was nearly double the government’s suggested goal—one of few diets that manages to do it.
  • Calcium. It’s essential not only to build and maintain bones but to make blood vessels and muscles function properly. Many Americans don’t get enough. Women and anyone older than 50 should try especially hard to meet the government’s recommendation of 1,000 to 1,300 mg. Because you’re not allowed dairy or fortified cereals, you’ll likely only get about 700 mg. from a Paleo menu.
  • Vitamin B-12. Adults should shoot for 2.4 micrograms of this nutrient, which is critical for proper cell metabolism. You’ll have no trouble meeting the recommendation—fish and meat are B-12 powerhouses.
  • Vitamin D. You’ll get very little or none, so you’ll either have to supplement (the non-caveman way) or just make sure you spend enough time in the sun to get the 15 micrograms recommended. Some experts suggest five to 30 minutes of sun between 10 a.m. and 3 p.m., twice a week and without sunscreen, to meet the recommendation, according to the National Institutes of Health.

Supplement recommended? Up to you, but The Paleo Diet recommends vitamin D supplements if you don’t get a decent dose of sun regularly. Fish oil capsules are suggested if you don’t like fish or shellfish. Some sources also suggest a calcium supplement.

Government recommendations? Are we really suppose to let the government tell us what to eat? Their recommendations for fat, protein and carbs for a normal individual are way out of whack. Don’t listen to the government folks! The US Guidelines are created by the USDA. That stands for the United States Department of Agriculture. Of course they are going to recommend grains! Of course they are going to recommend carbs! Don’t you see the “crime” here? It’s sad but it’s all about money. Corn, a grain, is subsidized. It’s super cheap. Companies that make processed foods like Kraft use tons of corn. They also use a lot of wheat and soy. Both are subsidized and thus very cheap.

Kraft makes a lot of money at the cost of YOUR HEALTH.

You get all the necessary nutrients from a primal or paleo diet. Easily. By a landslide. No concern here.

How easy is it to follow?

Can you get used to the idea of breadless sandwiches? Or having your milk and cookies without either milk or cookies? Diets that restrict entire food groups are difficult to follow. On the flip side, you can determine how primal you want to be, working in some cheat meals if you want.

Convenience:

Recipe sites and cookbooks are abundant, but you can also incorporate eating out into your Paleo plan. Alcohol is discouraged but OK in moderation. You’ll have lots of sites and books for support.

Fullness:

Nutrition experts emphasize the importance of satiety, the satisfied feeling that you’ve had enough. You shouldn’t feel hungry on this diet—protein and fiber are filling, and you’ll get plenty of both. One small study of 29 participants published in Nutrition and Metabolism in 2010 found Paleo dieters felt just as full but consumed fewer calories than their Mediterranean counterparts.

Taste:

You’re making everything, so if something doesn’t taste good, you know who to blame.

This diet is easy to follow. It’s not a diet which bugs me. But hey… it may get me some traffic! I like how they said cheat meals. This is a personal choice. If you want to include a few cheat meals or cheat foods then do it. It’s all up to the individual. This is not some religion that you have to follow. They are right in that you will feel full. I now wonder why they believe it won’t help you lose weight?!?! The 2 don’t add up! And yes, the food is muy delicious!

How much does it cost?

It may be pricey—the produce section and meat counter are among the priciest corners of the grocery store.

Wrong! It’s not pricey unless you make it be. Buy a whole cow and share it with others. Get a membership at Costco. Eat a fair amount of potatoes and bananas. Eat a good helping of ghee and coconut oil. Forget steak. You don’t need it. Buy local and in season. Only eat organic when you can afford it. Eat organ meats. Barter. Cook all of your own food. Create awesome smoothies.

Does the diet allow for restrictions and preferences?

Not everyone can follow this approach—choose your preference for more information.

More nonsense. Everyone can follow this approach. Even vegetarians. I will never recommend a vegetarian diet to anyone but it’s still possible. Eat some legumes, supplement your protein intake and eat eggs if you are willing. It’s not difficult. More than likely you will be adding meat to your diet in no time. Most vegetarians fall off that wagon and end up eating meat. Most do it for health reasons.

What is the role of exercise?

Recommended. Although they didn’t think of it as “exercise,” hunter-gatherers of the Paleolithic were always on the move.

If you’re following the basic Paleo approach, try to get at least 2½ hours of moderate-intensity activity (like brisk walking) each week, along with a couple days of muscle-strengthening activities. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention offers tips to get you started.

The Paleo Diet suggests a similar approach, and offers tips to sneak in exercise throughout the day (i.e., getting off the subway a stop early) while reminding you exercise can be fun—if you’re doing something you like.

It’s simple. Move. The more you move the better. Quit sitting all day. Stand and sit instead. Do some push-ups or squats every 30 minutes in your office. If you get fired then it’s a sign that it was not the best job anyways. Some of you may not be able to do this but MOST of you can. You are just too afraid. Do intense workout sessions. Play. Have fun. Don’t follow a strict program. I personally go out by the beach and just move in the moment. I mix it up and never follow the same workout. I have a blast this way and look forward to every single workout. Not kidding. If you don’t look forward to exercising then you should take a step back and think about how you approach it. I have a blast and you should too.

The primal/paleo lifestyle also emphasizes sunlight, sleep and more. I choose to live more minimally and many others are following. Spend time outside. Educate yourself. Quit following conventional wisdom.

What are your thoughts on the US News Diet Report? On my response? How accurate do you think the results are? They seem way off to me. 

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  • staffaction

    I have thought that Paleo/Primal is similar to atkins – mainly due to no grains. How is that not true? Maybe I just don’t know what the atkins is? To most people though, that’s what they think of: no grains. And that’s a key element of primal.

    • http://primaltoad.com Toad

      Their are too many differences. Atkins is pure low carb. It says to eat no fruit, potatoes, etc. With primal/paleo one experiments and finds out what is best for him or her. If you are on atkins and follow the rules then you don’t eat these foods. That’s another difference – primal/paleo has guidelines while you are only doing atkins if you follow the strict rules. Primal/paleo is not even a diet.

    • http://primaltoad.com Toad

      That’s the simple reason why they are both not even close… atkins is a diet while primal/paleo is not.

  • http://busybotti.wordpress.com nicole

    I would say that it is fairly similar to atkins…it follows similar principles of keeping blood sugar low and stable through eating less carbohydrates. the difference obviously would be that some phases of atkins don’t allow for the vegetable intake that paleo/primal diets include (though it IS true that not all people who follow paleo or primal diets eat tons of vegetables). There can also be differences between paleo/primal and atkins when it comes to dairy products – like cheese, heavy cream and butter. Atkins allows these things but strict paleo diets do not, primal does but not all choose to eat dairy. What’s the huge problem with comparing atkins to paleo/primal? Atkins does not deserve the bad rep that it gets…and if you follow paleo/primal principles then you would understand why it does not.

    • http://primaltoad.com Toad

      Atkins is a diet while primal/paleo is not. With primal/paleo one should experiment and decide what is best for them. If you are doing atkins then you are following strict rules. There is no such thing with paleo/primal. Well, you can but everyone is still different. Atkins avoids too many foods.

  • http://www.lifeofjustin.com Justin Wright

    I would say it’s somewhat similar to the Atkins diet. However, the primal/paleo diets don’t really restrict you from eating as many fruits and vegetables as you want. Some people do well eating more carbs, especially people with high metabolisms or who are active often. This is why I love the primal diet because I don’t feel like I have to stick to a certain amount of carbs.

    From all the Atkins books I’ve read in the past, the one thing I really noticed is the primal/paleo diets do a lot more promoting of buying the best quality foods as possible (grass fed beef, organic produce, etc.). As well as removing all non-real-foods like artificial flavorings, colorings, etc.

    Some of the Atkin’s books made it sound like I should just go to the store and by the cheapest hamburger I can find and eat it 6 times a day. Not exactly a healthy lifestyle approach if you ask me.

    • http://primaltoad.com Toad

      Exactly – Atkins is a hell of a lot more strict and is just that – a diet. People go on the diet to lose weight. It may work but they want more to keep improving their health. They go primal/paleo and bam.

  • http://primalcommentary.blogspot.com/ Crystal

    Great post!! Keep stickin’ it to ‘em.

    • http://primaltoad.com Toad

      Thanks. I will.

  • http://www.cmcipriani.com Crystal Cip

    I have an uncle that slides from diet to diet. I can’t wait to tell him about Paleo (though I’m a baby-Grok right now) He did Atkins, Sugar busters, you name it. This is NOT like Atkins. He was miserable, they restrict most fruits and veggies to very limited amounts a day and it’s low-carb, as you said above, you can eat a lot of carbs (I need to stop eating so many bananas…) Coming from an Italian family this was super hard for him when everyone else ate pasta, pizza etc and he could only have his little Atkins meal since they don’t look at alternatives for those things. Honestly, his dieting is like a family joke, it’s a fad, an “oh look what Uncle Tommy is up to now” type of thing. I don’t think he ever embraced Atkins because of it’s restrictions and his hunger. That’s something I don’t have, hunger. I have no problem being primal (who says this while getting a raised brow look from her husband as a reminder she just came off the week long carb-cutting bitch fest).

    And yes, I will NEVER look at a Government recommendation for food choices and think it’d be a wise decision. They are so backward it’s sadly almost nearly funny.

    I’d have placed this diet closest to Weston A. Price. Which also happens to be the catalyst to my move to Paleo.

    • http://primaltoad.com Toad

      Thanks for this comment! Yes! WAPF is very close to Paleo! Nothing like Atkins – I won’t allow anyone to say they are similar.

  • Erika

    ‘Cuz dairy and cereal are the only sources of calcium? How did the caveman ever survive!?

    • http://primaltoad.com Toad

      Lol. They survived on lots of meat and veggies :)

  • Robin

    I think the main problem with Atkins was not the low carb aspect but the fact that quality of food was not a priority, ie. eating processed meats is ok on Atkins but not recommended on Primal. But most importantly, a differentiation between healthy and unhealthy fats was not made, therefore you have people on Atkins thinking canola oil is a good cooking oil, or other seed oils (as far as I know). Primal emphasizes cutting out sources of Polyunsaturated fats and Omega 6 from your diet and eating more Omega 3 and Saturated and Monounsaturated fats which are the healthy fats. This is a very important part of the Primal lifestyle (almost wrote “diet” lol) and should be a priority.

    • http://primaltoad.com Toad

      Exactly! Thanks for pointing out this difference. Primal/paleo is all about all around healthy living and eating. Quality is so very important!

  • Simon

    I’ve been studying Paleo/primal for 2 months now. I’ve read The Primal Blueprint and Gary Taubes Why we get Fat. Also listened to Wheat Belly on the excellent podcast Underground Wellness. You’ve also got Sugar:The Bitter Truth on YouTube. They all point to the same conclusion – carbs induce insulin. If it doesn’t walk, swim or fly, fall off a tree or come through the earth….don’t eat it!

    • http://primaltoad.com Toad

      Lol. It is a little more than that however. You have that one tribe, the Kitawans (sp?) who eat A LOT of potatoes… tons of carbs but are as healthy as can be.

  • Tiffany

    I like the way you think Toad

    • http://primaltoad.com Toad

      Thanks for the kind words Tiffany!

  • Greg

    I’m late to the party, but “Great post!”!

    Here’s why it’s like Atkins: from above “At 23 percent of daily calories from carbs, it’s far below the government’s 45 to 65 percent recommendation.”. Ergo, it’s “low-carb” … according to the people who brought us the U.S. Tax Code. Where did that 23 percent come from? More than likely, pulled out of some government bureaucrat’s ass.

    Here’s why it’s NOT like Atkins: Atkins is a DIET, Paleo/Primal is a LIFESTYLE. If what you eat defines you, then I guess Atkins could be a “lifestyle”, but is anyone truly defined simply their diet?

    I think what they’re trying to say is “Atkins ‘diet’ CAN co-exist within the Paleo/Primal “lifestyle”. Atkins can’t coexist Ornish, et al.

    Fine. Paleo/Primal are versatile. That’s a HUGE plus. I don’t think most people are well-served comsuming several hundred grams of carbohydrate a day.

    When I followed Atkins’ plan, it primarily only affected me a meal/snack time. Now, I look beyond the nutritional labels and examine how something produced and what effect it may be having on me. To Atkins, a fat is a fat is a fat, a protein is a protein is a protein, and a carbohydrate is a carbohydrate is a carbohydrate. I’m much more discriminating now. I sunbathe whenever possible. I move slowly often and lift heavy things/sprint occasionally. This is a lifestyle, not “just a diet”.

    • http://primaltoad.com Toad

      Well said Greg! When you label yourself as primal or paleo then you are sure to be enjoying all aspects of a healthy lifestyle. Food is huge but its way more than that.

  • A.Stev

    There are big differences between Atkins and Paleo (food quality as was mentioned), but they’re not entirely dissimilar, and I think Atkins is an important gateway into Paleo for a lot of people.

    I get the “Paleo is a lifestyle– Atkins is a ‘diet’” stuff, but that’s not entirely true. Atkins original prescription was to eat essentially carnivorously (which is largely what my Paleo has become) and slowly add back in stuff to see if you could handle it. That’s not too different from how a lot of people do Paleo. They eat more strictly then slowly test out things like sweet potatoes and fermented dairy to see if they agree with their health and digestion. Both realise carbs are a problem, but Paleo is just more flexible when it comes to what kind of carbs and doesn’t shun greens like at the beginning of Atkins. Atkins though, as it was preached by the actual man, was never “Eat this way for a month to lose weight then go back to eating carbs again”, so in that respect you can’t call it “just a diet”; It was meant to be as much of a continual and ongoing lifestyle change as Paleo (though not as comprehensive as Atkins has no exercise regimen). Like will probably happen when Paleo becomes super-mainstream, lazy idiots and yo-yo dieting grandmas will see it just as a “diet”, do it for a month and give up, but that doesn’t make Paleo “just a diet” either.

    With Atkins the focus is certainly entirely on losing body-fat, and while Paleo is far broader, how many people started Paleo to lose weight? A lot, I’d even reckon most. Now obviously, again, Paleo is about way more than just shedding the flab and even more than just what you eat, but you can’t deny that one of major motivations for people eating either Atkins or Paleo is the exact same.

    I think a lot of the anti-Atkins slant in the Paleo community comes from simply trying to distance us from the reputation of Atkins. Despite Atkins program itself being unnecessarily complicated for an idea so simple and lots of ignorant people still thinking low-carb is tommyrot, thousands of people lost weight and improved their all-around health on it, and like I mentioned earlier, it served as the gateway into the Paleo lifestyle for a lot of people. For that reason alone I refuse to knock Atkins.

    I do understand where the anti-Atkins slant comes from emotionally. I totally know how it can be frustrating to try to have a conversation with someone about Paleo and the response being “That’s just that silly Atkins diet where you only eat meat. I’d rather not have a heart attack, thanks.” Is denying that it’s at all similar to Atkins really truthful? Particularly when Atkins HAS been shown to cause fat loss and improve overall health (even by studies paid for by the American Heart Association… of course they cut the funding after the results prove their “low-fat, lots of whole grains and plant sterols” diet wrong, but that’s another conversation entirely…)? No, it’s not really truthful. They’re not the same obviously, but they’re not completely different either. I don’t think people need to be deceived into listening to us about proper diet, they need the science to mushroom slap them in the face. Learning that Atkins isn’t unhealthy like they think it is isn’t really hurting the Paleo movement.

    Granted, there’ll be people who won’t listen even if you show them the science (for all the various reasons from straight up denial to religious fanaticism to entrenched “conventional wisdom” to plain old laziness and unwillingness to change). I’ve never met someone who was told about Paleo who said “That sounds like Atkins” that was ever converted after being told it wasn’t like Atkins anyway. If that’s someone’s first response then they’re probably not looking to change their lifestyle.

    As much as I think we need to push for the revision of dietary advice, get more people of influence in medicine and government into the lifestyle to enact the kind of widespread change necessary to make Paleo mainstream and the new “Standard American Diet”, I don’t think we can be an evangelical movement and go out trying to actively convert people. It’s gotta happen naturally or else people will be put off by it. Hopefully in a couple decades when we all are still thin and pretty and haven’t died of heart attacks, and aren’t suffering from diabetes and the like, people will start to take more serious notice (ie. big funding behind the studies, becoming conventional wisdom), but until then we can’t really force it, so really, people thinking thinking Atkins and Paleo are cousins, regardless of whether it’s true or not (which I think I argued pretty convincingly IS actually somewhat true) is really the least of our worries.

    As was mentioned by Greg above, Atkins and Paleo aren’t mutually exclusive. I personally have shifted into a diet of almost entirely meat/fish/eggs/offal. Vegetables have largely become a garnish for me, and I feel great! That’s paleo, but still technically Atkins too. So to sum up this article-length comment, Atkins’ focus is solely on food and losing fat, but that’s not different from the way a lot of people’s focus with Paleo, and given the overlap, I don’t think shunning Atkins is really doing us any favours (for all the reasons I mentioned). Atkins IS more than “just a diet”, but granted, still isn’t as broad or as varied as Paleo. I guess in that sense I object more to the tone of your reaction to the Atkins comparison than your actual points, but I thought some things needed to be clarified.

    • http://primaltoad.com Toad

      Thanks for your comment! I think this is the longest comment on this blog ever! I read it all – great read.

      I agree that they can be similar. It just depends on how the paleo person is approaching there eating plan. But, primal/paleo places a huge emphasis on food quality – local produce, grass-fed meat, ditch industrialized oils, etc. I thought Atkins did not place much, if any, emphasis on food quality.

      Am I wrong?

      • A.Stev

        Yeah, I tend to get off on tangents a lot. Everything’s so damn connected. lol

        You’re right. That’s the really big difference: Atkins doesn’t given any real concern to food quality. Paleo in pretty much all cases is going to be low-carb compared to the SAD, but obviously it need not be low carb in any kind of objective sense. It’s probably more accurate to call Paleo a Real Food movement as that’s more of a focus than worrying how many grams of carbohydrate in something regardless of where those carbs are from.

        My concern with the comment was really about the fear (and annoyance) of being compared to Atkins all we modern day Groks have (and the instant dismissal that comes with it) and how it’s not necessarily a bad thing. I see Atkins as in some ways incomplete Paleo. Going cutting out sugars and grains and replacing them with artificial sweeteners and “sugar free” like a lot of Atkins dieters and low-carbers do is missing the point entirely. I think then if the similarity between the two isn’t completely rejected, perhaps we can get all those people who are halfway there on Atkins get all the way there by ditching the Splenda and Equal and eating real foods.

        And at the end of the day, who cares what US News thinks? It’s sort of a “has-been” magazine isn’t it? (I’m not American so I’m not too familiar with US periodicals.) Yeah, I know it sucks that they’re a bunch of ignorant morons (and really, what do we expect from the media?), but if people are actually concerned about their health and what they’re eating, US News probably isn’t the first place they’re looking.

        More and more people are having success eating real foods and cutting out the crap, and more and more people are becoming aware of the science, despite the plethora of awful studies the media latches onto and misinterprets. The outrage I think is justified, but a bad ranking from a single magazine that’s infamous for its controversial ranking lists is pretty small beans in the grand scheme of things. The facts can’t be ignored forever.

        • http://primaltoad.com Toad

          “It’s probably more accurate to call Paleo a Real Food movement as that’s more of a focus than worrying how many grams of carbohydrate in something regardless of where those carbs are from.”

          I agree. But, we are all stuck on paleo. It’s gotten huge. I like primal and caveman better. I call myself a professional modern day caveman.

          I think Atkins is a valuable tool. Thousands go on Atkins and end up eating paleo. That’s awesome!

          Many of us are on the right track but more are still headed down a dark road…

          • A.Stev

            I just meant “Real Food movement” is a better descriptor than “Low Carb diet”, not as a replacement name for Paleo/Primal/Archevore. Paleo’s focus is food quality whereas Atkins’ is just cutting carbs.

            Come to think of it though, I do actually really like the sound of that. One of the most serious complaints I hear directed at Paleo is that “that’s not what paleolithic people ate” by scientists who don’t get that it’s not about re-enactment. While it’s a nice simple meme and gets the point across, the whole Caveman thing is probably going to come and bite us in the ass, if it hasn’t done so already. Like it or not, it does make us taken less seriously by a staggering amount of people. I’m not saying we should necessarily completely re-brand the movement, but it’s something that needs to be thought about.

            Perception of us is a big deal and I haven’t heard anyone discussing it seriously and treating it like the issue it is. It’s easy for a regular person to just dismiss “Eating like a Caveman” because on the surface it sounds ridiculous. For all the people who think Paleo is a fad and see some of the more extreme people like DeVany hunting boar and small local news reports about Paleo where the representative is eating a raw steak like a lion, would “The Real Food Movement” not be better? I’m totally not against either of those things , but the media focuses on the most extreme aspects for shock value and paints the movement as a bunch of crazy people. That’s not what we want.

            CW people would probably have an easier time checking out something called “Real Food”. Everybody agrees that artificial stuff is bad, it’s just that they don’t realise how much stuff isn’t actually real food. Wanting to eat more naturally is what gets people to eat those ‘healthy’ whole grains, and “Real Food” could get them to ditch those grains altogether. It’s sort of a case of catching more flies with honey than vinegar.

            It’s easy to stay insulated in the Paleo community and think that Paleo is blowing up in a big way… and it is getting bigger, but it’s nowhere near mainstream yet. It’s on a lot of people’s radars, but it’s still really a fringe movement (though we’re getting there). We need to start taking people’s negative perceptions of the movement more seriously. What I’m saying isn’t: “Tone it down just to win converts and dilute the movement in the process”, but perhaps we need to think long and hard about whether a word like “Caveman” is really doing us more good than harm.

          • http://primaltoad.com Toad

            I love the whole caveman deal. It’s fun. And, the movement continues to grow at a staggering pace. There are so many sub movements inside the bigger health movement. Going barefoot, minimalism, the fact that we need the sun, etc. Fitness that does not involve running on a treadmill for an hour 5 days a week. This is all caveman stuff :)

            I think the media are the ones who are adding cavemen to it anyways. Most of us use the terms paleo and primal. I prefer primal. Many of us say whole, real food as well. The media always twists things so it gets more attention. People many diss caveman but they are attracted to it. They just don’t live it and thus ignore it.

            I’m not worried. This health movement will continue to grow.

  • http://myfunnylittlelife.com Kath (My Funny Little Life)

    I’ve read that review and found it just ridiculous. The sad thing, however, is that many people will believe it. :(

  • Judie
    • http://primaltoad.com Toad

      Aware of what exactly?

    • A.Stev

      Hmm, interesting. Looks like there’s a whole ‘nother movement I didn’t know about that’s on the right track. And one more media friendly to boot.

  • Susannabanna

    Todd, (just can’t bring myself to address you as “Toad”!)

    After 6 months of weaning myself off sugar…successful losing the soda, pastry, candy.. I thought I was in much better shape and eating much better, even tho I had not dropped 1 oz!. (I haven’t been able to lose weight in 11 years.) Then I had a blood test. The test was for maintaining my current prescriptions for high cholesterol and high bp. Then my doctor told me I had 3 months to get my diet under control or I would be put on a diabetes drug. What the what??? I am in shock. How does this happen, blood sugar and blood pressure thru the roof on a DIET? Don’t even want to talk about the Cholesterol Problem!

    I have been overweight for 11 years; I blamed menopause. Because that’s what women my age do. What could be wrong with grains, right? I’ve eaten them all my life with “no ill effects”!

    I had read about the Primal Blueprint a couple of years ago, ordered the book, appreciated the science, but could not get past the hyperbole. Tossed book. Tried Atkins, it worked to a point (took 3 months to lose 6 lbs), ’til I started buying Atkins’ bars!!!

    So two weeks ago, after my Dr. appt,, I cruised the web looking for a diabetes approach to diet and was directed to Mark Sisson’s site. Again. Started looking at paleo/primal sites all over the place and thought, I can do this. Overt sugar is no longer my problem, and the all grain elimination certainly can’t harm me. Yeah, I can do this.

    So here I am at two weeks on a primal journey, and I have lost 11 lbs. What a motivator! In two weeks! I haven’t yet adopted an exercise plan as I work as a live-in RN. Hard to exercise when you work 12 and 24 hour shifts, up at 4:30am and off after 10:00pm, and on call 7 days a week (thank you very much, Economy). Tho after 2 weeks grain free, I feel great. It’s not hard to eat this way. I find I only need to eat once or twice a day. My haggard look is already gone. I can eat anything I want as long as stick to the guidelines.

    Point being, I’m not a body builder. I’m an older woman with a need to be a lot healthier. I certainly do not want to end up like some of my patients. Guess what I am really trying to spit out is that I am grateful for all the research that has been done,and people like you who spread the info. I am sure there are a whole lot of us out there trying to wrap our minds around this after being pounded with USDA tripe for all of our years. Keep up the good work and thank you. I’ll check back with an update in a couple of months.

    • http://primaltoad.com Toad

      Congrats on your success so far! I wish you a lot of luck on your journey. Let me know if you ever have any questions.

      And, you really work 24 hour shifts? Yikes!

  • Bek

    Hi Todd!
    It is so refreshing to see another person’s point of view on paleo lifestyle. I have found Cynthia Perkins Holistic Help on line and she got me going in the right direction. At first, she sounds like a heratic- it just seems crazy the things she says…..then you really get to the science of it all and you realize this is truth!

    At 20something I was used to being active and at least fit to chunky and no medical issues. I had my last two children in mid 30′s and all Hell broke loose on my ass! I got fat-dizzy-migraines-body aches- depressed-stressed-anxiety ridden-my hair is thin and brittle- my skin is dry and itchy- and stuff……

    I got off of the drugs the Dr. prescribed for migraines with vertigo and I feel like me again (somewhat) but of course the dizzies are going to come back sooooo….. I decided to “cold turkey” quit caffeine(over a pot of coffee a day) sugar-grains-beans- I was vegetarian and now I eat the meat and veggies. It is hard for me to eat animals but I do buy organic foods only and at least I can feel better about where my food comes from.
    It has just been two weeks- I feel more energy, haven’t been dizzy (which is amazing!!) and I lost 12 pounds so far…. we won’t talk about the “die off” because I don’t want to scare anyone away from doing this- it is so important for your life. I had a lot of die off but only because I am loaded with candida overgrowth.
    I want to thank you for your refreshing views on this lifestyle…
    I just wanted to also give you a good link I found recently (you may know of it already) it’s a book called Clean, Green, and Lean (or maybe Green, clean, and lean…. it’s not in front of me) It’s all about environmental toxins and written by a natropathic Dr. who overall seems to have his finger on it! Check it out.
    I would love to keep up with you for support ( I know not a soul who thinks what I am doing is sane). My own extended family thinks I will be killing my children by “doing” this to them! Sad saps!
    Bek

    • http://primaltoad.com Toad

      Congrats on your success! That’s awesome! It’s always great to get off meds. I used to take minocycline and tetraycycline for acne a few years ago… I am incredibly grateful I was never on accutane! Drugs do more harm then good!

      Most people don’t get it yet. I mean we are eating whole, real food but everyone has been brainwashed by mega companies and industries like, well, pharmeceutical and big agra!

      Maybe someday most of the world will come around.

      Good luck on your journey!

  • darlean

    I have studied “cavemen” in many of my anthropology classes over the years, and one of the ways that scientists determined the age of a human find was how far ground down the teeth were. Grains were a big part of our ancestor’s diets, and so I do not understand the whole “no grain” thing. Also, I find it interesting that you do not recommend vegetarianism, but there are many cultures that are vegetarian, and their superior health is testament to the fact that a veggie diet can be attained just as your diet here can. There are problems with every diet, including this one. So much seafood, yes, but cavemen did not have to deal with improperly labeled Thailand shrimp or Swai that is full of harsh metals and chemicals.

    Frankly, I do not think that any fad diet like this has to be followed to be healthy. You just have to educate yourself and use common sense. Yes, just plain common sense. I think people get so amped up about their food choices that diet is becoming as hard to discuss as religion or politics. For instance, the author swears in this article quite a few times, and his defensiveness is palpable in many outtakes. I am glad that the primal diet addresses blood pressure (supposedly) because I can practically see the vein popping out of poor Toad’s forehead.

    Chillax, Toad. Common sense is all any of us need, not more diet fads.

    • A.Stev

      “Grains were a big part of our ancestor’s diets”

      That’s a factually incorrect statement. While there’s some evidence that some human populations were eating grains in the paleolithic (and going through the whole pain-in-the-butt routine it is to actually make them edible) there’s no evidence that they were a major staple of the diet until we invented agriculture (the same time we just ‘coincidently’ got shorter and stopped living as long).

      As Greg also mentioned, grains today are far different from what they were in the paleolithic. In fact, grains today are extremely different even from what they were just 50 years ago. The amount of inflammation-causing lectins in grains is much greater in the artificially selected and now genetically modified cereal crops of today than the kinds of grains available to paleolithic peoples.

      The diseases that chronic inflammation causes are deadly, but they don’t tend to kill us before we reach sexual maturity, and usually even middle age, so there’s essentially zero selective pressure to weed out lectin intolerance in the human population. If it doesn’t kill us before we fulfill our biological function and breed there’s not much chance that we’re going to genetically adapt to it.

      “You just have to educate yourself and use common sense. Yes, just plain common sense.”

      There ISN’T common sense when it comes to science though, and certainly not nutritional science. As a culture we’ve been lied to about diet for the past half a century. “Common sense” about diet is wrong… wrong as in: not backed by scientific evidence.

      If nobody actually bothered to investigate facts and just followed “common sense” everyone would think that the sun goes around the earth and that the world must be flat. There’d be no conception of quantum mechanics because ‘how can anything be in two places at once?’ ‘how can something be both a particle and a wave?’. Discovery of facts RARELY comes from “common sense”, it comes from empirical research.

      As someone who has taken anthropology classes you should know better than to just rely on “common sense” and received beliefs without examining the actual evidence. Y’know… ‘educating yourself’.

    • http://primaltoad.com Toad

      You say grains were a big part of our ancestor’s diets. Are you talking about hunter-gatherer ancestors? You must not be…

      What do you mean by vegetarianism? Someone that avoids all animal products? What cultures do this? I am unaware of any so please inform me.

      Fad diet you say? This “diet” is based on the principles of what are hunter-gatherer ancestors ate but only implemented in the modern world. Label it a “fad” diet if you want. Be my guest. It’s the longest fad ever known to mankind. An ever lasting fad.

      I’m quite chilled my friend. I’d love to read your responses to my questions.

      Thank you.

      • RitaCeleste

        Civilization has been the enslavement of all mankind for the benefit of the few fatheads running the show. Grow some grain, get soldiers, war and tax. You’d think someone would notice this trend as they wave their freedom flags! So it doesn’t really surprise me that people don’t notice the vegetarian diets are not really designed for human beings but for cattle. After all, they haven’t even noticed that they are treated like cattle….Money makes the world go round, its cheaper to feed the people RAMEN and rice then tell them its the staff of life so that’s the plan. My complaint with paleo isn’t at all with the science its the logistics of trying to acquire products for food produced outside of factory farms at a reasonable price point. Vegetarians are not healthier, when people can’t afford meat or supplements and specialty foods the results to health are sometimes even deadly. People in India who can’t afford meat fall over dead all the time even with with all the bugs in their grain.

  • Greg

    Darlean,

    I don’t think the “cavemen” you studied ate the Frankengrains of the 21st century. Keep reading … I think you’ll find there ARE vegetarian Primals out there. The Primal approach emphasizes eating high-quality foods. Many of the grains of today are very different from the grains of yore. Toad is promoting a lifestyle, not a fad diet. It’s more of a holistic approach, like promoting sensible physical activity. By the way, jumping to conclusions is not part of the activity regimen.

    Chillax, Darlean. Common sense is a myth.

    • http://primaltoad.com Toad

      Thank you for your comment Greg.

  • Michelle

    I know you said that Paleo does not cure type 2 diabetes but in fact I know someone who is completely off meds and insulin after just a few months on paleo. Granted he chose a lower carb version of paleo, and since carbs = insulin it is really easy to see how he got those results.

    • http://primaltoad.com Toad

      I said it does not cure type 2 diabetes? Where?

      Carbs = Insulin… this may not be true. He is off meds and insulin because he eliminated bad carbs. If he added back in potatoes and some fruit then he would probably be just as healthy or would gain more health back.

  • Mr.Ruffin

    Paleo is low carb. (Which isn’t necessarily a bad thing). I can’t believe how much misinformation was presented by the US News. However, there are some claims by Paleo enthusiasts that are just plain inaccurate. For starters, we do not know what our ancestors ate and secondly it was not all the same things. To suggest our ancestors ate a specific group of foods is ridiculous, considering the fact ancient humans ate whatever was available in their geographical location (which are vastly different depending on where you go). Eliminating natural food groups is what makes the paleo get a bad rep in my eyes. In fact, any diet that claims a natural food group should be removed in it’s entirety, should not be taken to seriously. Telling people to stay away from nuts and beans is just wrong.

    That being said, I still think Paleo should be ranked higher overall. It’s still a good diet for massive meat eaters out there ;)

    • http://primaltoad.com/ Todd Dosenberry

      How do you define low carb?

      We are not 100% certain what our ancestors ate way back when but we have a general idea. We do know that we certainly ate meat and some plant foods.

      And, we know what our primitive ancestors ate from just a couple hundred years
      ago and this was real food. Plenty of animal fats, veggies, fruits, tubers, nuts,
      seeds, grains that were properly prepared, high fat raw dairy products.
      Have you ever heard of Weston A. Price?

  • Bignevermo

    Tropical oils(coconut oil is one) are very high in saturated fat. The AMA and AHA both discourage the use of Tropical oils. Also how can potatoes be good for diabetics… Russet potatoes(almost all potatoes) are very high in the Glycemic index and load…how can that be healthy? Also what about people that have microalbuminuria they cant eat too much protein…how would that be handled. Thanks Toad!

    • http://primaltoad.com/ Todd Dosenberry

      Tropical oils are wonderful foods. I don’t listen to the AMA and AHA. Potatoes are nourishing for everyone. They may not be the best for many diabetics but that does not mean it’s true for all diabetics.

      • Bignevermo

        Ok thanks toad..”.
        They may not be the best for many diabetics but that does not mean it’s true for all diabetics.”…no sense in continuing this conversation…have a nice life!

  • RitaCeleste

    That whole article was crap! Low carb Atkins can get a diabetic off insulin and it doesn’t rank high for diabetics? Of course not. US NEWS must own stock in drug companies. It looks like they pulled their data out of their ass. No scientific studies, no test subjects, no nothing. I’m looking into some paleo recipes but I’m poor so I have to use the products I can afford (cheap meat!). As an eater of Atkins I am use to seeing poor reviews from fat phobic people. I think paleo can be extremely healthy, I just suffer from insufficient funds to go all out on it. People would say, cut out internet and cable but I’m renting so I don’t have to cover that anyway…. Besides then it would be a Caveman lifestyle not Caveman diet and that’s just too much of a commitment.

  • sweets

    I’m glad I stumbled onto this site. I am looking to revamp my boyfriends obviously not working, low carb diet. So far, I’m liking the paleo diet much better. I want him to eat quality food and he needs to eat more veggies and friuts. I’m going to read some more and make a suggest this to him over the weekend.

    • http://primaltoad.com/ Todd Dosenberry

      Yea eating low carb does not work for everyone. I’m a big fan of potatoes :)

  • Fernando

    Todd, if you and other paleo nuts didn’t come across as such arrogant buffons, maybe people would be more willing to listen to you. If hunters/gatherers had it made back in the day, why aren’t we all still living their lifestyle? Obviously, those ‘paleo’ people decided things weren’t working and loved the agricultural revolution among other things.

    • http://primaltoad.com/ Todd Dosenberry

      It’s complicated but the gist of it is simple. Imagine 100 human beings living in the wild…. would our chances of going extinct be good? I would think so! But not with 7 billion of us, what do you think the chances are of the human being going extinct? :)

      100 may be a small number but I want you to understand my point. Plus, I’m moving on from Paleo in a way! WellnessToad.com will launch soon.

  • Frank

    Lol, people will go and search their entire lives, ways to lose all the weight they can, while seeking the least amount of work. I’m sure this diet is very beneficial, but it’s all a lack of self control and laziness. Eat right, eat in moderation, and exercise. That’s all there is to it. I have many family members who have lived to be 95-101 years old–eating the grains, and dairies, and hostess products throughout their lives, however, I come from a family that exercises as well. People. I’ve heard all the “I don’t have time to work out,” and “I’ve been working all day and I don’t feel like exercising” excuses for a long time. If you care about your health, you’ll make the time. I suggest teaching people more self control; this will lead to a better life in all aspects, not just food. Eat all the waffles, pizza, and spaghetti you want! As long as you’re watching your portions, not overindulging yourself, and making some time in the day to exercise. You’ll be fine.

    • http://primaltoad.com/ Todd Dosenberry

      I actually agree with what you have said. For most people, this way works if they MOVE! :)

  • Ann

    But if they told us the truth (which I’m sure they know) that we should eat FOOD, then how are they supposed to make trillions of dollars selling processed crap and medicine and all that stuff? People like you help me keep my sanity:)